difference between ~0U and ~0 | C Programming (2024)

  • Forums
  • Archive
  • Archive
  • C Programming
  • Thread startersomenath
  • Start dateMar 4, 2012

S

somenath

  • Mar 4, 2012
  • #1

Hello All,

I am confused with the behaviour of the following program
#include<stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
printf("\n~0U = %d",~0U);
printf("\n~0 = %d",~0);
printf("\n~0U>>1 = %d",~0U>>1);
printf("\n~0>>1 = %d\n",~0>>1);
return 0;
}

==========
Output
=========

~0U = -1
~0 = -1
~0U>>1 = 2147483647
~0>>1 = -1
===========
According to my understanding ~0 is -1.So I will get all bit 1 as a
result of ~0 in 2's complement system.

So the first two line of output saying ~0 is same as ~0U. Then why
there is difference in the output of ~0U>>1 and ~0>>1 ?
please provide some input.

S

Stephen Sprunk

  • Mar 4, 2012
  • #2

Hello All,

I am confused with the behaviour of the following program
#include<stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
printf("\n~0U = %d",~0U);

~0U has type (unsigned int); the appropriate format specifier is %u, not %d.

printf("\n~0 = %d",~0);

~0 has type (int), so %d is correct.

printf("\n~0U>>1 = %d",~0U>>1);

~0U>>1 has type (unsigned int); the appropriate format specifier is %u,
not %d.

~0>>1 has type (int), so %d is correct.

return 0;
}

==========
Output
=========

~0U = -1
~0 = -1
~0U>>1 = 2147483647
~0>>1 = -1
===========
According to my understanding ~0 is -1.

That is true for if the zero's type is signed. However, "0U" is
unsigned, so the result of the ~ operator cannot be negative.

So I will get all bit 1 as a result of ~0 in 2's complement system.

That is an implementation detail and will only confuse you at this point.

So the first two line of output saying ~0 is same as ~0U.

Perhaps on your system, but your code invokes undefined behavior by
using the wrong format specifier, so anything is possible.

Then why there is difference in the output of ~0U>>1 and ~0>>1 ?

Fix the bugs in your code and you'll see that you're asking the wrong
questions.

S

B

BGB

  • Mar 4, 2012
  • #3

Hello All,

I am confused with the behaviour of the following program
#include<stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
printf("\n~0U = %d",~0U);
printf("\n~0 = %d",~0);
printf("\n~0U>>1 = %d",~0U>>1);
printf("\n~0>>1 = %d\n",~0>>1);
return 0;
}

==========
Output
=========

~0U = -1
~0 = -1
~0U>>1 = 2147483647
~0>>1 = -1
===========
According to my understanding ~0 is -1.So I will get all bit 1 as a
result of ~0 in 2's complement system.

So the first two line of output saying ~0 is same as ~0U. Then why
there is difference in the output of ~0U>>1 and ~0>>1 ?
please provide some input.

because ~0U is unsigned, but ~0 is signed.
'>>' does different things for signed and unsigned values.

B

Ben Bacarisse

  • Mar 4, 2012
  • #4

somenath said:

I am confused with the behaviour of the following program
#include<stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
printf("\n~0U = %d",~0U);
printf("\n~0 = %d",~0);
printf("\n~0U>>1 = %d",~0U>>1);
printf("\n~0>>1 = %d\n",~0>>1);
return 0;
}

==========
Output
=========

~0U = -1
~0 = -1
~0U>>1 = 2147483647
~0>>1 = -1
===========
According to my understanding ~0 is -1.So I will get all bit 1 as a
result of ~0 in 2's complement system.

So the first two line of output saying ~0 is same as ~0U. Then why
there is difference in the output of ~0U>>1 and ~0>>1 ?
please provide some input.

I don't think anyone has said yet that the result of right shifting a
negative value is, explicitly, implementation-defined. Some machines
will do one things and some another. The C standard leaves it up to the
implementation to say what it does. The result of ~0U >> 1 is defined
by the language -- it must be UINT_MAX/2 (that's C's division
there, of course, not mathematical division) but ~0 >> 1 can be anything
the implementation chooses. The two most likely possibilities are
INT_MAX and -1.

J

James Piper

  • Mar 8, 2012
  • #5

Close, but backwards.

~0 is all bit 1.

So you will get -1 as a
result of ~0 in 2's complement system.

That's true.

1 in 8-bit format is: 0000 0001
To get neg- 1:
1. Negate bits. 1111 1110
2. Add 1: 1111 11111

Same results regardless of the bit size.

T

Tim Rentsch

  • Mar 9, 2012
  • #6

pete said:

Another way for negatising in two's complement is:
1. subtract 1. 0000 0000
2. Negate bits: 1111 11111

I've worked on assembly code
that had it done either way in different parts of the code.
I don't know if it was done by the same person.

The first method turns x into -x; the second turns -x into x.

Remember, only 22 more shopping days before March 32.

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Similar Threads

A process take input from /proc/<pid>/fd/0, but won't process it0
does 0<(unsigned short)0x8000 hold?13
Beginner at c0
Please help with C programming to save GPS reception data in Raspberry Pi.0
Comparison of Integer and Pointer (that's supposed to be an Integer). Where did I go wrong?0
Command Line Arguments0
C program: memory leak/ segmentation fault/ memory limit exceeded0
difference between pointers44

Members online

No members online now.

Total:59 (members:0, guests:59)
Robots:60

Forum statistics

Threads
473,853
Messages
2,569,777
Members
45,573
Latest member
Sharyl5941

Latest Threads

  • How to promote my projects?

    • Started by chumpro
  • Hi everyone

    • Started by chumpro
  • SLANDERED! JONATHAN BEAUDEAU, CHANTAL BEAUDEAU. IRIS AMABILE BEAUDEAU

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • SLANDERED !JONATHAN BEAUDEAU, CHANTAL BEAUDEAU. IRIS BEAUDEAU

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • SLANDERED! JONATHAN BEAUDEAU, IRIS BEAUDEAU. CHANTAL BEAUDEAU

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • IRIS BEAUDEAU, a YOUNG CHILD SLANDERED!

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • IRIS BEAUDEAU, a YOUNG CHILD: SLANDERED!

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • CHANTAL BEAUDEAU SLANDERED!

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • CHANTAL BEAUDEAU SLANDERED!

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • JONATHAN BEAUDEAU SLANDERED

    • Started by DefenderMa
  • Forums
  • Archive
  • Archive
  • C Programming
difference between ~0U and ~0 | C Programming (2024)

References

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Dr. Pierre Goyette

Last Updated:

Views: 5696

Rating: 5 / 5 (50 voted)

Reviews: 81% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Dr. Pierre Goyette

Birthday: 1998-01-29

Address: Apt. 611 3357 Yong Plain, West Audra, IL 70053

Phone: +5819954278378

Job: Construction Director

Hobby: Embroidery, Creative writing, Shopping, Driving, Stand-up comedy, Coffee roasting, Scrapbooking

Introduction: My name is Dr. Pierre Goyette, I am a enchanting, powerful, jolly, rich, graceful, colorful, zany person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.